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BAM101



Joined: 03 Feb 2007
Posts: 1

PostPosted: Sat Feb 03, 2007 2:16 am    Post subject: Degree verification process Reply with quote

Hello EveryoneThis is my first post to this forum. I have a question about how and by whom Uni degrees are verified. Is this done by the country at the time a visa is applied for, or is it done by the school where one is applying for work? Also, do the certification schools like TEFL or TITC (or others) verify your degree, or will they simply accept my diploma as proof of my degree?

The reason I am asking this is because, although I do have a valid university degree (BSB), the college that I graduated from is no longer in operation. They closed their doors in the mid 80痴. I do have my original diploma and transcript, but verification at this point would be difficult at best.

If I simply submit my diploma for either the visa process or at the school I want to teach at, will that be enough? I am considering teaching in Thailand, Vietnam or (least likely) China. Can anyone tell me what I would be up against if my degree cannot be verified?

Thank you
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sonja



Joined: 20 Apr 2006
Posts: 9
Location: South Korea

PostPosted: Mon Feb 05, 2007 8:22 am    Post subject: degree verification Reply with quote

Hi,
In regards to your query, it really depends on the country you want to teach in. In China & Vietnam you don't need a degree to get a work visa. Thailand changes all the time. In other countries like South Korea you definitely need a degree to get a visa. I had to send sealed & dated academic transcripts directly from my University to Korea. I also had to send a copy of my degree which had to have an "authorised copy" stamp from the Korean embassy in my home country. Never send any original documents. Then while I was in Korea the immigration had a big clamp down on fake degrees and we all had to go to the immigration dept to show our certified copies again. Some friends were deported back to Canada for having fake degrees. Currently I'm in Turkey where a degree is not essential but it gets you a better paying job. Lots of people here have fake degrees and no one seems to care (probably because it's not a govt requirement).
Hope this helps
Sonja
sonjalina.sasse@teachinternational.com
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Lexicon



Joined: 11 Sep 2006
Posts: 153
Location: New Orleans

PostPosted: Wed Feb 07, 2007 12:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bam,

If you're from the US, all schools that shut down are required to do some sort of de-certification. I think it's mainly something to do with federal financial aide.

But, you should be able to get some sort of sworn affidavit from the state where the school operated vouching for the authenticity of your diploma.

It might be worth contacting the Dept of Education.

If you're non-US, I don't know how this works.

Good Luck,

Drew
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bondy57



Joined: 21 Feb 2011
Posts: 3
Location: Jinzhou, China

PostPosted: Wed Jun 01, 2011 9:33 am    Post subject: Deceivers Reply with quote

I am an old man now but with a kids heart. I am not pretentious, I am not an egotist or a primadonna ....... as in life "proof is in the pudding"
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bondy57



Joined: 21 Feb 2011
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Location: Jinzhou, China

PostPosted: Wed Jun 01, 2011 9:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Degrees are only pieces of paper .... they DON"T PROVE YOUR ABILITY .... I repeat, "proof is in the pudding," you just need the appropriate authority to recognise and understand that.
In China where I work I have seen teachers with degrees coming out of their ears .... they didn't last long .... they couldn't teach .... they could not think outside of the box or laterally.
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bondy57



Joined: 21 Feb 2011
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 01, 2011 10:25 am    Post subject: Life and being a teacher Reply with quote

It's not about what you are, it's about WHO YOU ARE Wink
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JamesAtRealize



Joined: 09 Sep 2010
Posts: 118
Location: Kobe, Sanomiya, Japan

PostPosted: Thu Jun 02, 2011 5:02 am    Post subject: Re: Life and being a teacher Reply with quote

bondy57 wrote:
It's not about what you are, it's about WHO YOU ARE Wink


That's sweet but I'm pretty sure the OP is just concerned about visa applications and not proving his ability...

Countries that require degrees for their visas have lists of accredited universities and colleges on hand, they don't actually call anyone directly.

Your university, if it was ever recognized by your country, will also be recognized by a friendly country.
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