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cain_cain



Joined: 29 Sep 2005
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 08, 2005 6:57 pm    Post subject: Anybody in Moscow? Reply with quote

I've been in moscow for about three weeks now and find this place really intense but alot of fun. Is there anybody else out there who is in moscow? i'd love to get some advice and hear your experiences of this crazy place.
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Fitz Spinning



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PostPosted: Tue Dec 13, 2005 8:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've considered going ot Moscow myself but I know little about the country. How did you find your job there and was this for your job abroad? I'd be interested to hear how you found accomodations and the like.

Thanks,

Fitz
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cain_cain



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PostPosted: Thu Dec 15, 2005 6:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Fitz,
I work for EFEnglish First, basically i just sent them my CV, and they phoned the next morning to arrange a telephone interview ( i live in ireland and the nearest office was Manchester) After the interview they offered me several jobs but i decided to take the one in Moscow. There are alot of EFL schools here, independent as well as multi-nationals like EF. Your school will arrange accomadation for you. I was offered several apartments near my school but decided to move in with the other native speaking teacher in the centre of moscow. Much more to do!
Just be careful who u take with, research it before u accept any position. Some people have had a really bad time over here!
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Fitz Spinning



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PostPosted: Fri Dec 16, 2005 5:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hey C_C,

Thanks for the info. That's interesting and gives me some great motivation...I do have a few mroe questions though that maybe you can help with.

First do you speak any Russian...if not how are you getting along with out knowing the language?

Also you mention some bad stories...can you elaborate a little on what you've seen/heard? I'd like to hear the good and the bad.

Fitz
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cain_cain



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PostPosted: Fri Dec 16, 2005 1:31 pm    Post subject: Moscow Reply with quote

Hey Fitz,

A question for u Fitz; are u a native English speaker? Because if your not u will have trouble gettind an English Teaching job here no matter what qualifications u have.
As for my ability to speak Russian it is pretty basic. I learn at least one new word or phrase each day and i am taking Russian lessons at the beginning of the New Year which EF are supplying for free. I am lucky because my flatmate can speak fluent Russian so if i have problems she helps me out. I would strongly advise u to learn as much as u can before u come here(something i didn't really do) as very few people on the street speak English. But hey thats why we're here!
As for bad stories I met a Canadian girl last week who is having a terrible time. She took a job with a company called Globus, when she arrived the job they had offered was gone and she was forced to take another job which she didn't want. They also give her adifferent contract to sign than the one they had first sent her. She was given an apartment on her own in a rough part of town at least an hour away from her work and nobody in her school helps her with anything. She doesn't speak any russian and life in general has become difficult fo her. This is just one story.
Goodluck Cain
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antarcticn



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PostPosted: Wed Dec 21, 2005 4:51 pm    Post subject: Zhulebino VS Moscow Reply with quote

Hi Cain,

A few months ago you sought advice about taking a job offer by EF English First, in Zhulebino, on the outskirts of Moscow. Did you take that job? And rotate afterwards into Moscow. Or, is this job in Moscow your first Russian experience? And did you hold out until EF proffered the right offer for you?

Chris
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cain_cain



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PostPosted: Thu Dec 22, 2005 7:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah, it's the same job all right! I was a bit dubious about taking the job here but finally agreed after talking to the DOS on the phone several times and I really did make the right choice. I work in Zhulebino but live in the centre; it takes me roughly 45min - 1hour to get to work, depending on weather. I love my school, it's a small school so it's really like a family and as I am the only male teacher here, all the Russian ladies love looking after me. The kids are great too, although there are a few bad apples, to be expected. I know I could probably earn more money elsewhere but there is much more to life than money. Anyway my wage lets me lead a comfortable lifestyle in Moscow.
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antarcticn



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PostPosted: Thu Dec 22, 2005 8:56 pm    Post subject: Moscow life Reply with quote

Cain,

Thanks for your reply. At the start of this thread you asked about Moscow. I'm not there now but visited in '97. Tverskaya Ulitsa was the main drag emerging from the end of Red Square opposite St. Basil's. You likely know this by now. Next to it is the underground mall with skylights. It was not open when I visited. Terrorists set off a bomb in there 2-3 years ago. Further on the left side of Tverskaya (walking away from Red Square) is the Intourist Hotel with its casino. Immediately before that was Patio Pizza. The pizza wasn't so good, but it was an option between McDonald's (left off the next corner, behind the post office) and more pricey restaurants before Patio Pizza.

What struck me was the bunch of young men (they're called "new Russians") in black leather dusters on 85 degree August days milling menacingly in front of Patio Pizza and the Intourist Hotel. (local weather news said it was the hottest heat wave of the 1900s) The new Russians provided half my dining entertainment through the sunroom windows of PPizza. A few dumb tourists ogled too much the scantily dressed Moscovite ladies plying the sidewalk under the watchful eyes of the leather trenchcoat patrol. When the tourists snapped photos, the patrol approached and tried a shakedown for $$$. When the tourists objected, a few waves of leathery arms in the air to hail police or militsa brought one or both to the "scene of the crime!" Compromises were hurriedly reached, shakedown fealty paid, and escapes made while getting away was still possible. I ate at PP 2-3 times. This scenario re-ran each time. Riotous to observe.

As you need 45 minutes to transit to work, you doubtlessly find the metro colorful with its artists and bargain-basement merchandise. The people (aside from new Russians in leather dusters) were very friendly. You need know only about 200 words to blend in if you do not invite chatting, but issue declarative statements or ask questions requiring answers of few words. It is better to blend in in Moscow. In the outskirts, being American is more novel and welcome. Don't be paranoid, but present minimum target. They tend to see all Yanks as wealthy and/or with resources or access to resources to quickly make up lost wealth. If you're assessed as a 'soft touch' you won't un-ring that bell for a good while.

But, all-in-all, I felt safer walking Moscow streets than, for example, Philly, Detroit, NYC, Wash DC. I did several walkabouts. One hot night club was supposedly co-owned by Chuck Norris. It is a bus or taxi away from Red Square. It has a wide promenade sidewalk out front. In fact, I dimly recall that strip of businesses / restaurants / clubs had a name akin to promenade. Nearby was a TGI Friday or similar motif US chain diner.

If you go to the overlook in front of Moscow University (Sparrow Hill), you'll get a bird's eye view of the expansiveness of Moscow. Hugely sprawling as far as the eye can see. Around Moscow several quaint restaurants have live music and/or entertainment for reasonable prices. Better take your fluent roommate. When proprietors discover your main language is not Russian, you get the other price list that does not exist (so they claim). Find someone who knows their way around and exposes you to their favorite places (not US/expatriot).

Enjoy. Gotta admit, I'm a bit envious of your adventure. Pondering this new career possibility.

Merry Christmas and Happy New Year.
Chris
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cain_cain



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PostPosted: Thu Dec 29, 2005 6:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for all the info Chris! I actually live just off Tversakay Ultisa. Its a great place to live dispite the long journey to work, but i don't have to change Metro lines. My school is moving to a bigger building in the New Year which means a longer bus-ride to work. Great! I don't know if u experienced many bus-rides over here but they're not fun.
Happy New Year
Cain
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Wonder Bread



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PostPosted: Mon Jan 09, 2006 7:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hey Cain_Cain, does that mean your school is expanding? Any more jobs coming up? You seemed pleased enough wtih it so that's endorsement enough for free. I really want to go to Moscow. I've spent time in St. Petersburg, that place was awesome, but now I want to swing to Moscow. I was so excited to see your post!!!!!
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cain_cain



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PostPosted: Tue Jan 10, 2006 6:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sorry we aren't expanding, just moving for logistical reasons. We were supposed to be in our new school by now but things haven't went according to plan. Do they ever in Russia? But I did hear that EF were recruiting more teachers for their other schools in Moscow (I think there r 12-13) so check it out. You won't have any problem finding a job here as long as you are a native speaker; have a degree and some sort of TEFL qual. If u make to Moscow get in touch and we will go for a few beers!
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